For actual rifled barreled black powder rifles i know i would use a conical bullet and a wad or patch would go between the powder and the conical bullet. Nov 19, 2014 what was wrong with this picture, from the perspective of a white powder rifle, was twofold. Bullet weights are established by the following methods. Shooting a paperpatched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle. Measure the thickness of paper patch that you plan to use. It contains no volatile solvents, but does contain rust preventives for steel. Table of contents chapter 1 background 2 the bullet 3 casting the paper. Antifreeze and water is a very good solution to clean black powder barrels. The solid brass construction of the patch puller with strong spring steel tines easily retrieves cleaning patches which are lost in the bore. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder, black powder substitute, or smokeless powder, and would like more of an understanding about ppb. Although effect of bullet diameter was the primary focus, the tests were expanded to include variations of patch type, bullet hardness and choice of powder.
The bullet puller quickly removes bullets or balls stuck in the bore. You will be able to seat them out further than you can with traditional straightsided bullet designs. Black powder round ball, conical molds, and casting supplies. If shooting black powder and using full sized bullets groove diameter after patching, you might be unable to load the second or third shot due to. Black powder hunting gun bullet molds for sale ebay. Grease grooves base guards production knurling big slugs power press diamond knurl nose shapes. I bought an rcbs mold for a 500 gr pp bullet to use in a 4570 browning bpcr. If you want to use paper patching, the bullet will need to be about. Why use a dirty black lube that makes a mess of everything.
Where i learned that i cant remember, but it works. You can even use your normal black powder lube to grease the paper patch, if it is soft enough to apply easily and is not mineral oil based. Would paper patching reduce leading in s rifled barrel. Jun 01, 2017 starline brass fire formed in a grease groove rolling block chamber cleaned, size checked, primed. Cvas bullet puller is a must for every muzzleloader. Paper patch bullet question my question has to do with powder choices. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and. Snover and postell bullets have a tapered round nose, for.
Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. So with that i wanted to initially see if there was a sight that would have the patches for black powder rifles that i could order from. Jul 02, 2009 paper patch vs lube, black powder is paper patching a fair replacement for lube in a black powder rifle for conicals. I always used black powder as it was the most accurate and reliable. I have used all the different types of bullets a muzzleloader can shoot. Patching is the hand process of applying paper jackets.
Mattern and the complete guide to handloading by phil sharpe both will give you some good information. There are other factors that should go into the selection of a patching paper, certainly. To better address and understand the why paper patched bullets, lets examine the differences between gg grease groove, lubed and pp paper patched, or ppb bullets as theyre used in loading black powder cartridges. Paper patching would allow the bullet to leave the barrell without signature straitions on the bullett. With the 4570 nd 4590 i do not want to give up any powder capacity by having to seat a groove diameter paper patched bullet deep into the case to use with a standard shiloh chamber. Ill be shooting an original marlinballard union hill that is just now incoming. If you want to shoot a cast bullet in a muzzleloader you need a barrel cut 12 thousandths deep. Paper patch bullet molds 2cavity 7 paper patch bullet molds. This would be for my 577450 martinihenry which takes a. However, one thing that i do remember from the article was that the writer used undersized bullets and before paper patching them, he rolled them over a file or rasp to rough up the surface so that the paper gripped better. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load.
With the hope of exposing some universally applicable trends, these variables were eventually tried in three more. The current resurgence of singleshot and blackpowder rifles creates a need for uptodate and accurate information about paper patched bullets. It doesnt actually increase accuracy, over the fact that 100 years ago, the tolerances of barrells wasnt close to todays machining processes and created a better barrell to bullett match. He goes into a nice long discussion of the technique and the pros and cons of paper patching. Black powder guns are a whole different ball game compared to shooting standard firearms, but are still used for sport, reenactment, and enthusiast shooting. What was wrong with this picture, from the perspective of a whitepowder rifle, was twofold. My memory is too fuzzy to recall if the bullets were shot with black or white powder. Starline brass fire formed in a grease groove rolling block chamber cleaned, size checked, primed. The paper patch bullet by randolph wright is useful for the basics but is tailored for the black powder cartridge shooter. I am wondering if anyone knows about paper patching a jacketed bullet for hunting.
New paper patch approach by ed wosika linkedin slideshare. Paper patching opens a whole new world in performance of cast bullets. Also, i like shooting black powder, and at last count, have put over 2 tons of lead downrange shooting bp firearms. Bullets for black powder cartridges track of the wolf. Total ratings 4, lee 90398 double cavity r e a l bullet mold. Black powder paper patched bullet cartridges a ppb primer for bpcrbptr cartridge building why paper patched bullets. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. The big hardness gain bullet casting water quench controversy vr to. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. I am wondering if anyone knows about paperpatching a jacketed bullet for hunting. Cowboy bulletsan alloy of one part tin to twenty parts lead.
Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. Test loads note the waterproofed patches on bullets at left. I addition to the usual remedies you use when loading black powder cartridge ammunition with grease. Naramore points out that they used to even have 4 different thicknesses of special paper for patching. The historical concept of paper patching can, i am certain, be found on the interwebs someplace.
Oct 18, 2017 black powder paper patched bullet cartridges a ppb primer for bpcrbptr cartridge building why paper patched bullets. One of the earlier attempts, which is still popular today with muzzle loaders and users of black powder rifles, prevents leading and obtains potentially better velocity and performance with cast projectiles involves application of a paper jacket. It allows for higher velocities with softer lead bullets. Snover and postell bullets have a tapered round nose, for long range single shot rifles.
At this point the only bullet mould i have is the lyman 375248. Mine was a 45120 and loaded with 5 grains of imr4198 and 105 grains of 1 fg goex it did shoot well. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. In addition to coming to this conclusion about prepatched bullet diameter, i also investigated the factors of bullet hardness, patch type and powder choice, hoping to further refine smokeless powder paperpatched loads. Casting, patching and loading their paper patch bullets in the hunting field. A properly paper patched bullet will not lead the barrel or leave any fouling other than powder which is easy to remove unless using black powder and that is a different category, and black powder and substitutes are great propellants for use in pp bullets.
Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. I do explain when asked that paper patching is not any different from copper jacketing a bullet. A unique and versatile lube for swaged, cast lead bullets, copperjacketed bullets and bore prelubing. The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. Lyman cowboy action bullets are flat point round nose, for lever action rifles, and revolvers. The powder was black powder, meaning low velocities so these early rifles shot large, heavy bullets which carried a long way. I find 8 thousandths deep works well for paper patched bullets, but is too iffy for cast bullets. Paper patch vs lube, black powder is paper patching a fair replacement for lube in a black powder rifle for conicals. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters. If you want to learn about paper patching go to a black powder shoot.
The cast bullet association is an organization of shooters who enjoy shooting cast lead bullets in rifles and handguns for competition, hunting, or informal target shooting. Pistol, black powder silhouette and c sharps arms bulletsan alloy of one part tin to ten parts lead. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. If it slips in with a slight resistance, its the right size. Whether you have a sharps, rollingblock, or a hawkin, all can be loaded using the paper patch method. If its getting propelled by the holy black, this is the place to talk about it. Why did they paper patch bullets in the movie shooter. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. For smokeless paper patching you want to have a bullet size to about.
Shooting a paper patched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. Such cartridges and their rifles were quite accurate for hunting game way out to 400 yards or beyond. If the patched bullet will fit the throat this step isnt necessary as seating the bullet in the case will remove the extra lube.
A steel punch and hammer was used to deprimeprime the case, a scoop for the black powder charge, a hole punch to make wads, and a marked wood dowel for compression. However, one thing that i do remember from the article was that the writer used undersized bullets and before paper patching them, he rolled them over a file or rasp to. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. This book presents todays most thorough, fully illustrated source of information for those who enjoy a taste of the past. May 17, 2016 the historical concept of paper patching can, i am certain, be found on the interwebs someplace. Sep 11, 2016 for the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. Add black powder or pyrodex to the open end of the tube. I find 8 thousandths deep works well for paper patched bullets, but is.
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